tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post2920135718881191810..comments2023-12-21T06:35:36.624-05:00Comments on Recursivity: Letter to Doug GroothuisUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-39430964846663899212010-09-03T05:57:05.111-04:002010-09-03T05:57:05.111-04:00Sirfab:
I'm not in the least worried - I just...Sirfab:<br /><br />I'm not in the least worried - I just find his hypocrisy amusing and wanted to have it for the record.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-49896243432185487362010-09-03T02:10:31.737-04:002010-09-03T02:10:31.737-04:00Dear Professor Shallit:
I, too have had the great...Dear Professor Shallit:<br /><br />I, too have had the great fortune, along with many others, of being banned from Douglas Groothuis's The Constructive Curmudgeon. I say great fortune because I used to spend a lot of time pointing out the illogical, biased, mean-spirited nature of many of Groothuis's posts against a variety of targets (mostly Democrats, mainly President Obama). <br /><br />The Constructive Curmudgeon is Douglas Groothuis's blog, which apparently--in his mind--entitles him to smear those whose policies and ideas he finds objectionable, particularly if the rebuttals involve pointing out to him that his positions lack basis in fact, are unsupported by any credible research, and clash with his rigid ideological positions. <br /><br />Suffice it to say that Groothuis hailed Sarah Palin as the great hope of the nation against O (not Oprah, Obama, as Groothuis disrespectfully referred to the President), that he is a staunch supporter of the Discovery Institute and that he has extolled Ben Stein's Expelled! as a clear example of the persecution against proponents of ID (which Groothuis considers a scientific theory), and that he rallied his students to vote for President Bush against Sen. Kerry during his classes (barely falling short of naming names.) <br /><br />As I said, my life has greatly improved since I stopped worrying about sending him comments that he routinely suppressed and I hope you will do the same.<br /><br />The guy wants to be treated with respect, while offering none to those who object to his harsh characterizations of people and policies he not only objects to but openly despises. <br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />sirfabThe Daily Fuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12636581068441603099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-32570685210955055482010-08-05T15:29:32.257-04:002010-08-05T15:29:32.257-04:00Anonymous, you are quite right:
A seminary, theol...Anonymous, you are quite right:<br /><br /><em>A seminary, theological college, or divinity school is an institution of higher education for educating students (sometimes called seminarians) in theology, generally to prepare them for ordination as clergy or for other ministry. </em>[Source: Wikipedia]<br /><br />Therefore, seminaries, being primarily religious, have staff who are not used to rational arguments. Rather, it is dogmatic concepts they abide to, and, for instance, their right to self-righteousness is taken for granted.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-89797266672514747382010-08-05T14:46:05.727-04:002010-08-05T14:46:05.727-04:00Is a seminary a university? (Do they have the free...Is a seminary a university? (Do they have the freedom to think and criticise). In that case I don't think he is obliged to follow your rule, Jeffrey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-77511602961392721032010-08-05T09:58:06.422-04:002010-08-05T09:58:06.422-04:00Doug:
One more thing: when a professor at anothe...Doug:<br /><br />One more thing: when a professor at another university writes to you, it's considered polite to respond personally and promptly.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-83894054642523651332010-08-05T01:27:01.511-04:002010-08-05T01:27:01.511-04:00Though I've since stopped for a long time now,...Though I've since stopped for a long time now, I too have left some comments on his blog in the past that I put nearly an hour of my time carefully writing, only to find that they've been denied outright. <br /><br />Of course, since I find most of Doug's assertions to be vacuous politicking under an <i>enormously inflated</i> guise of Christian righteousness and purity, my comments have rarely been in alignment with his, and I've almost always presented arguments contrary. Yes, Doug is very heavy-handed and censorious with his blog, permitting flippant "dittohead" comments--often exhibiting rudeness and/or hostility towards whatever target Doug chose that day (Obama, etc.)--while censoring comments (with footnotes and citations, dammit!) exhibiting a calmness and attention to argument otherwise nearly extinct in the blogosphere. <br /><br />Of course I know that he does receive inexcusably rude and uncivil comments (what blog doesn't?), but Doug also seems to often interpret "rude and uncivil" as equivalent to "disagreeing with me." <br /><br />"<i>Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.</i>" - Ralph W. Emerson (Nov. 8, 1838)<br /><br />I <b>immediately</b> thought of Doug Groothius when I saw post #158 at the <i>Stuff Christian Culture Likes</i> blog: "Censoring the Comments"<br /><br />Link:<br /><br />http://blog.beliefnet.com/stuffchristianculturelikes/2010/06/158-censoring-the-comments.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-48169553166798540502010-08-04T06:31:04.884-04:002010-08-04T06:31:04.884-04:00"I don't publish rude and uncivil comment..."I don't publish rude and uncivil comments."<br /><br />One can then extrapolate, from this statement--assuming it is valid, that Groothuis's blog attracts a large number of rude and uncivil comments (which never see the light because they are not published).<br /><br />One the wonders why it is the case that his blog attracts such rude comments.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-86947468469849927532010-08-04T03:51:15.708-04:002010-08-04T03:51:15.708-04:00I don't publish rude and uncivil comments. Tha...<i>I don't publish rude and uncivil comments. That is my policy. Arguments given with respect are published.</i><br /><br />That's a falsehood. Many of your posts don't permit any comments at all. And you refused to post comments that were completely respectful.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-13648617340365773782010-08-03T22:12:16.606-04:002010-08-03T22:12:16.606-04:00I don't publish rude and uncivil comments. Tha...I don't publish rude and uncivil comments. That is my policy. Arguments given with respect are published.Douglas Groothuis, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08766692378954258034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-35417164504901187782010-08-03T19:20:53.077-04:002010-08-03T19:20:53.077-04:00What he really means is "where are all my syc...What he really means is "where are all my sycophants!?"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10538070410910465649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-54424165985688316032010-08-03T19:19:36.217-04:002010-08-03T19:19:36.217-04:00I just bought a house in Uppsala, Sweden, where I ...I just bought a house in Uppsala, Sweden, where I am moving to since I got a chair in the math. dept. The house was owned by two ladies, married to one another, and who are both priests in profession.<br /><br />I wonder what Doug Groothuis would think of that. He'd say: "it is against reason and against god" and leave it at that.<br /><br />Anyway, don't bother him too much. He does seem to be against discourse as much as he is against intercourse. It's only fitting to his religious dogma.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-12923033454985693912010-08-03T16:09:43.875-04:002010-08-03T16:09:43.875-04:00Of course there's been no reply. YOU ARE STIF...Of course there's been no reply. YOU ARE STIFLING HIS DISCOURSE!!!Tyhttp://www.unreasonablefaith.comnoreply@blogger.com