tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post4288063718235861925..comments2023-12-21T06:35:36.624-05:00Comments on Recursivity: TV Station Can't Bring Itself to Show or Name BookUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-62441392533757099352010-01-07T16:35:00.961-05:002010-01-07T16:35:00.961-05:00Miranda:
It seems the only purpose of your commen...Miranda:<br /><br />It seems the only purpose of your commenting here is to appear to be agreeing but eventually disagreeing and starting an unprovoked series of stupid comments. If you, at your old age, feel like patronizing, then do so to your grandchildren.<br /><br />The topic of the conversation is the deep perversity of most religions, most likely all of them. Religion is evil as you seem to have agreed with earlier. Unfortunately, many people cannot get rid of bad habits and continue to torture themselves and others because of their religious stupid beliefs.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-76967122168965214662010-01-07T02:55:26.763-05:002010-01-07T02:55:26.763-05:00Learn what "smirk" means, Takis.Learn what "smirk" means, Takis.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-75996274027168196632010-01-06T04:17:33.160-05:002010-01-06T04:17:33.160-05:00"What was the topic of this post again, anywa..."What was the topic of this post again, anyway?"<br /><br />Scroll up to see it. Or get treated for your presbyopia if you can't.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-38465896026435628852010-01-05T18:57:26.457-05:002010-01-05T18:57:26.457-05:00"No I don't care to waste my time googlin..."No I don't care to waste my time googling any arbitrary set of words you come up with. "<br /><br />It would've been faster than typing "I am sorry, but I don't know who Colonel Potter or what horse hockey means." Plus, you could've avoided the embarrassment of being chastised for not Googling.<br /><br />What was the topic of this post again, anyway? (smirk)Grandma Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-15837853116536266342010-01-04T04:18:31.561-05:002010-01-04T04:18:31.561-05:00Miranda:
You sound like a patronizing granny. (Ma...Miranda:<br /><br />You sound like a patronizing granny. (Maybe you are one?)<br /><br />No I don't care to waste my time googling any arbitrary set of words you come up with. <br /><br />Either you respond directly or you don't. In any case, I did not start an argument with you. You are trying to do so with me however. All I said was that religion is disgusting, moronic, dangerous... (Or maybe I didn't use these words. But you like my postings, so read them again to correct me.)Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-48436752209065559652010-01-03T18:22:26.643-05:002010-01-03T18:22:26.643-05:00Again, you keep changing, Takis. Here you write: &...Again, you keep changing, Takis. Here you write: "Is there a religion that is not hypocritical and dangerous?" but before you wrote "which religions are not prone to hypocrisy."<br /><br />Maybe while you're googling on "horse hockey" (you've heard of google, right??), you can google on "hypocrisy." I don't think you're operating under an accurate definition.<br /><br />Every belief system, including lack-of-belief systems, has its dangers.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-7180541268920027542010-01-03T13:43:12.990-05:002010-01-03T13:43:12.990-05:00Miranda:
I am aware of what I wrote:
This is wh...Miranda:<br /><br />I am aware of what I wrote:<br /><br /><i><br />This is why I claim that most religions are associated with this kind of hypocrisy and scandals. I know well that not all religious people are immoral (in fact I can argue that the majority of them are not perverts or anything). I wrote "most religions" leaving out the remote possibility that there is a minority that has not entered into the realms of perversion. I would be happy to substitute "most" by "many" if I knew which religions are not prone to hypocrisy. Can you help with this?<br /></i><br /><br />I know I had written "all" initially. Realizing that this may be wrong (although I doubt it), I substituted it by "most", and offered an explanation.<br /><br />"As Colonel Potter would say, "horse hockey!""<br /><br />I am sorry, but I don't know who Colonel Potter or what horse hockey means.<br /><br />But I asked you a question, in case you know... Is there a religion that is not hypocritical and dangerous?Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-52154160352102973872010-01-03T12:54:04.335-05:002010-01-03T12:54:04.335-05:00Takis wrote:
"This is why I claim that most ...Takis wrote:<br /><br />"This is why I claim that most religions are associated with this kind of hypocrisy and scandals. ... I wrote "most religions" leaving out the remote possibility that there is a minority that has not entered into the realms of perversion."<br /><br />As Colonel Potter would say, "horse hockey!" You wrote "all religions." It's not so hard to scan this page, y'know.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-34394278490380699222009-12-26T08:10:04.261-05:002009-12-26T08:10:04.261-05:00It's easy for people without a claimed moral s...<i>It's easy for people without a claimed moral system to avoid being hypocritical.</i><br /><br />Well, we can add "Jeff's moral system" to the ever-lengthening list of things Miranda knows nothing about.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-56136764135430174332009-12-24T06:42:19.120-05:002009-12-24T06:42:19.120-05:00Good. I'm glad you agree. This is why every ti...Good. I'm glad you agree. This is why every time I hear morality being associated to religion I feel disgusted. Although, certainly, I do not know what happens with all religions, I have read quite a bit about the catastrophic effects of beliefs to unsubstantiated dogmas to be able to extrapolate the deleterious effects that a religion can have to people's minds. This is why I claim that most religions are associated with this kind of hypocrisy and scandals. I know well that not all religious people are immoral (in fact I can argue that the majority of them are not perverts or anything). I wrote "most religions" leaving out the remote possibility that there is a minority that has not entered into the realms of perversion. I would be happy to substitute "most" by "many" if I knew which religions are not prone to hypocrisy. Can you help with this?Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-31180857627528012132009-12-23T16:12:34.650-05:002009-12-23T16:12:34.650-05:00Takis, would you feel better knowing that your eff...Takis, would you feel better knowing that your efforts are wasted, since I already knew about all these scandals?<br /><br />Your line, "I'm sure that all religions have similar sex (and not only) practices, despite the fact that they claim to be "sex free"." is useless since you used the word "all", making it untrue. Change it to "many" and I'll leave you alone.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-29807452498726988322009-12-23T15:27:16.277-05:002009-12-23T15:27:16.277-05:00There are two problems with religious people:
1) ...There are two problems with religious people:<br /><br />1) Their hypocrisy about matters sexual.<br /><br />2) Their sex crimes.<br /><br />Since yesterday I spoke without references, let me provide some today:<br /><br />Roman Catholic sex abuse cases by country <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases_by_country" rel="nofollow">here<br /></a>.<br /><br />Dublin Catholic Child abuse report <a href="http://www.yudu.com/item/details/106364/Dublin-Catholic-Child-abuse-report" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Sex scandals in Orthodox church of Greece: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/feb/19/religion.uk" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/mar/20/greece" rel="nofollow">here</a>. (Sex, drugs, violence, etc.)<br /><br />Child sexual abuses by a priest of the Orthodox Church of Dallas: <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/022207dnmetabuse.15b1a8b.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Pedophilia cases in Greek church (in 2005-2007) <a href="http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=806054" rel="nofollow">here</a> (sorry, only in Greek).<br /><br />Very recent pedophilia and paraphilia cases <a href="http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=1&artId=253211&dt=01/02/2009" rel="nofollow">here</a> (sorry, only in Greek, but I point out some: 65-year old priest rapes boys; mother received money from priest to have sex with her 13 year old daughter; 82-year old priest rapes and abuses girls; priest prostitutes himself over the Internet.)<br /><br />A 7-part article (sorry, only in Greek) on "holy pederasty in christian church through the centuries) <a href="http://roides.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/29jan09/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />These are only few examples of the ones that are happening day after day, for centuries, by religious "leaders" of all kinds of religions. While I have focused mainly on two kinds of religion, the Orthodox Christian religion (because I know how corrupt they are) and the Catholic Christian religion (because we all know about the instutionalized child abuses), I'm sure that all religions have similar sex (and not only) practices, despite the fact that they claim to be "sex free". In other words, hypocrisy.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-28137622602654617322009-12-23T13:16:54.391-05:002009-12-23T13:16:54.391-05:00Sure, change direction without telling anyone. Thi...Sure, change direction without telling anyone. This hypocrisy angle is new.<br /><br />It's easy for people without a claimed moral system to avoid being hypocritical.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-27560610803292806092009-12-23T05:29:46.280-05:002009-12-23T05:29:46.280-05:00It's funny that you'll point to Haggard an...<i>It's funny that you'll point to Haggard and Swaggart (referring to their sexual misconduct), yet you'll defend Obama's safe-school czar Kevin Jennings and GLSEN's promotion of the same thing to children.</i><br /><br />You misunderstand completely. I don't care at all what Haggard and Swaggart did in their free time, as long as they didn't hurt or coerce anyone. <br /><br />What I object to is their <i>hypocrisy</i>. To compare this to Jennings who is <i>not</i> a hypocrite and only wants to <i>educate</i> people, is utterly grotesque -- but typical for you.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-1250191584472136712009-12-23T04:42:04.678-05:002009-12-23T04:42:04.678-05:00It's funny that you'll point to Haggard an...It's funny that you'll point to Haggard and Swaggart (referring to their sexual misconduct), yet you'll defend Obama's safe-school czar Kevin Jennings and GLSEN's promotion of the same thing to children.<br /><br />(One of the books Jennings recommends for kids:<br />http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/22/fistgate-xi-kevin-jennings-suggested-reading-for-kids-included-sick-book-that-promoted-sm-to-children-media-silent/#more-50770 )Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-28712997898873091012009-12-23T02:33:51.817-05:002009-12-23T02:33:51.817-05:00I agree with everything that you and Taki write in...I agree with everything that you and Taki write in the last two comments concerning the priesthood.<br /><br />Surprised?<br /><br />It's the words, "wish to see others suffer too" that bugged me.<br /><br />There's no proof for that -- even when we're talking about the reprobates Swaggart and Haggard.<br /><br />When a thief robs a store, he wants the money, but does he "wish to see the store owner suffer"?Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-28685753045402280772009-12-22T16:14:52.610-05:002009-12-22T16:14:52.610-05:00Miranda, does the name Ted Haggard mean anything t...Miranda, does the name Ted Haggard mean anything to you? Or Jimmy Swaggart? Or the <a href="http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=7880" rel="nofollow">study of misconduct of Christian ministers</a>?<br /><br />Seems like the truth is more on Takis's side, and you're a nasty and bitter denialist.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-27046748718228736082009-12-22T15:06:13.482-05:002009-12-22T15:06:13.482-05:00What I wrote is based on facts we read daily in ne...What I wrote is based on facts we read daily in newspapers. <br /><br />I refer, specifically, to those religions and religious leaders (bishops, etc) who, owing to their religious dogmas, must remain celibate. Of course, they fail to do so. They cannot! The resulting sexual practices are of the most disgusting type, as we have seen, again and again and again. To be more specific, I refer to priests (ministers, I don't know what the exact terminology is) of various Catholic churches and bishops of various Orthodox churches. A large fraction of them has such huge sexual problems that they engage in various kinds of paraphilias.<br /><br />I don't know what part of the world you are at, but I'm not referring to your experience with churches in your neighborhood (which could very well be free of sex abuses), but about all kinds of christian churches and branches around the world. And there are many (thousands of) types. (In fact, the religion called christianity is a collection of religions.)<br /><br />You need to search a bit and find all the information you want. You have no idea how disgusting priests and the likes can be...Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-8480588484150498652009-12-22T13:43:51.203-05:002009-12-22T13:43:51.203-05:00"In many cases, it originates from the fact t..."In many cases, it originates from the fact that those who establish (or hold positions of power in) a particular religion have sexual problems themselves and wish to see others suffer too."<br /><br />While they have issue of sticking things up people's asses, you have an issue with pulling theories out of yours.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-91835406168643739022009-12-13T07:17:41.601-05:002009-12-13T07:17:41.601-05:00Religion and sex don't mix well together. For ...Religion and sex don't mix well together. For millennia, religion has been trying to micromanage people's sexual behavior. It is one of the most ridiculous things in human history. In many cases, it originates from the fact that those who establish (or hold positions of power in) a particular religion have sexual problems themselves and wish to see others suffer too.<br /><br />But now, Christians can rejoice. A new book (obviously not perverted, like Eric Marlowe Garrison's) has been published: The <a href="http://bettersex4christians.com/tastefullyillustratedsexpositions.html" rel="nofollow">A Tastefully Illustrated Sexual Positions Guide for Christian Couples</a>.<br /><br />If you didn't know what sex for Christians is then you may find an answer therein. I suppose. <br /><br />This, of course, raises the natural question: Are there different position for Jews? For Hindus? (Well, yes, we know this.) For Zoroastrians? I'll let theologians decide and debate on this.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-17724736761590321142009-12-10T11:48:20.683-05:002009-12-10T11:48:20.683-05:00Returning to the topic of the original blog post, ...Returning to the topic of the original blog post, I can't say I blame Marti for hanging on to that book. It looks great... hopefully Marti's learned a few things from it.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115112001151182281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-52678385732067602072009-12-09T21:39:09.242-05:002009-12-09T21:39:09.242-05:00Miranda:
You're a bore. Go away.Miranda:<br /><br />You're a bore. Go away.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-91015779344707525692009-12-09T17:04:34.410-05:002009-12-09T17:04:34.410-05:00I'm sending it to your kids, not you. I'll...I'm sending it to your kids, not you. I'll have my friend Harry Hay meet them in one of the bars that are advertised in the pamphlets.<br /><br />(Again, I have to say I'm kidding.)Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-83344043154701834552009-12-09T16:18:04.807-05:002009-12-09T16:18:04.807-05:00Thanks, Miranda, I'll look forward to it.Thanks, Miranda, I'll look forward to it.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-35797694055607739252009-12-09T15:39:43.783-05:002009-12-09T15:39:43.783-05:00I'm thinking of sending the following booklet ...I'm thinking of sending the following booklet to your kids:<br /><br />http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/09/fistgate-iii-obamas-safe-schools-czars-black-book-for-kids-included-tips-on-fisting-and-piing-on-your-partner/<br /><br />You can't accuse me of doing anything perverted; you've already shown that there's nothing perverted with handing out this stuff to kids.<br /><br />I feel obligated to tell you that I'm joking about sending this stuff to your kids.<br /><br />PS: Just say "tit for tat" instead of "tu quoque." It's less pretentious.Mirandanoreply@blogger.com