tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post1557493835788211977..comments2023-12-21T06:35:36.624-05:00Comments on Recursivity: ID Supporters Interviewed; Count the MisrepresentationsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-19059511039641888072015-08-07T09:58:49.634-04:002015-08-07T09:58:49.634-04:00Visit http://www.karlsims.com Visit http://www.karlsims.com Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-5205627770409361212015-08-07T08:33:22.156-04:002015-08-07T08:33:22.156-04:00Where do I get this sims program? It sounds awesom...Where do I get this sims program? It sounds awesome. Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670550711237457368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-13249333074814040722015-08-05T15:58:37.349-04:002015-08-05T15:58:37.349-04:00The Sims example is an excellent one. When creati...The Sims example is an excellent one. When creationists or ID proponents are shown genetic simulations that have a genome that approaches a predefined target sequence (such as "Methinks it is like a weasel") they argue that the information was already built in by the programmer, in the form of the target sequence.<br /><br />But Sims's beasts have their own "physics". Put them under selection to move to the right, and they will evolve diverse and successful structures that do that increasingly well. There is no way to argue that those structures, or those motions, are built in by the programmer. Sims's organisms are selected based on their movements, without regard to how they achieve them.Joe Felsensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06359126552631140000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-39481840960578495422015-08-05T13:57:56.156-04:002015-08-05T13:57:56.156-04:00The count plural evidences was perhaps originally ...The count plural <i>evidences</i> was perhaps originally inspired by the religious use of <i>evidence</i> as 'a sign of grace/salvation' and the idiomatic term <i>the Evidences (of the Christian Religion)</i>. I can think of no other reason (except, perhaps, incomplete literacy).Piotr GÄ…siorowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06339278493073512102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-48823208916239988182015-08-05T10:27:07.968-04:002015-08-05T10:27:07.968-04:00Go look at the other papers and videos of Karl Sim...Go look at the other papers and videos of Karl Sims, if you're not convinced. I find the strategies evolved for locomotion by Sims' creatures to be fascinating and complicated. If you don't, then I guess the next step is for us to try to create a measure of complicatedness that would satisfy both of us.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-63464665556659557222015-08-05T09:06:03.900-04:002015-08-05T09:06:03.900-04:00What part of the linked paper shows that "evo...What part of the linked paper shows that "evolutionary algorithms can produce extremely complicated designs"? The paper claims that, for example, "the walking fitness measure also produced a surprising number of simple creatures that could shuffle or hobble along at fairly high speeds ... A number of more complex creatures emerged that push or pull themselves along, inchworm style." Am I missing something? Could you provide a few more references?lukebarneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03245704613008522157noreply@blogger.com