tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post4964812991680187492..comments2023-12-21T06:35:36.624-05:00Comments on Recursivity: BooksUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-32940563852281838542011-11-25T15:05:56.101-05:002011-11-25T15:05:56.101-05:00I made up the book title, Takis. I was just trying...I made up the book title, Takis. I was just trying to make a point, using an exaggerated analogy.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-38723685123684935922011-11-25T07:37:47.443-05:002011-11-25T07:37:47.443-05:00Hey Miranda, I haven't read the book you recom...Hey Miranda, I haven't read the book you recommended, but thanks for suggesting it. I looked up some information on David Irving and realized he's one of those morons who don't accept historical facts. Be it as it may, it's always important to read what the idiots have to say. I recently tried to read something that a theologian, called William Dembski, wrote, titled "The Design Inference: Eliminating Chance through Small Probabilities (Cambridge Studies in Probability, Induction and Decision Theory)", only to see how idiotic some people's arguments can be. [It's such a shame to have "scholarly" books of this kind published by Cambridge Univ. Press, isn't it? But publishers just want to make money.]<br /><br />A quick look at the qualifications of Zinn and Irving shows that the former is still considered a historian, but the latter has been disqualified. (Likewise, Dembski is not a mathematician or philosopher but a theologian/religionist.) One may not agree with the approach of the former, but it does appear to be a scholarly one.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-73531979858699299902011-11-24T21:42:29.288-05:002011-11-24T21:42:29.288-05:00"A People's History of the United States,..."A People's History of the United States, Howard Zinn"<br /><br />I think I'm going to pick up a copy of "A History of the Jewish People", by David Irving.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-36556133072837905132011-11-22T16:03:59.409-05:002011-11-22T16:03:59.409-05:00Miranda, If I'm interpreting you correctly...
...Miranda, <i>If I'm interpreting you correctly...</i><br /><br />No.<br /><br />TrutiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-50369431714384156732011-11-21T12:42:00.085-05:002011-11-21T12:42:00.085-05:00"You read some Zinn, and then read about Zinn..."You read some Zinn, and then read about Zinn."<br /><br />If I'm interpreting you correctly, you're saying it doesn't matter whether Zinn was a Communist or not. Then just say so. You too, Jeff.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-19773408775991269972011-11-21T09:42:57.482-05:002011-11-21T09:42:57.482-05:00Miranda,
Truti, my question wasn't just a ques...Miranda,<br /><i>Truti, my question wasn't just a question, but an invitation to clarify what you meant.</i><br /><br />No to your first question, and No thank you to your second.<br /><br />You read some Zinn, and then read about Zinn.<br /><br />TrutiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-53322412531963939052011-11-20T19:58:47.538-05:002011-11-20T19:58:47.538-05:00Get real, Takis. He liked the damn book.
This is n...Get real, Takis. He liked the damn book.<br />This is no witch hunt. I'm simply asking if he knew about Zinn's communism. Let Jeff just be up front about it (and stop focusing on silly things like the word "nemesis.")Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-80240585599761097092011-11-20T16:31:28.562-05:002011-11-20T16:31:28.562-05:00Miranda said...
"Takis, I don't get your ...Miranda said...<br />"Takis, I don't get your question."<br /><br />Do I have to be explicit on something obvious? I don't think so. It's like having to explain the punch line of a joke. Maybe the joke is not good, but, I'm afraid, in this case, it is the audience who can't get the jokes.<br /><br />As for the second remark, Jeff said, explicitly, that these books had the most influence on him in various ways. He did not specify how.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-58514554545893909382011-11-20T15:35:07.756-05:002011-11-20T15:35:07.756-05:00Nemesis? Don't flatter yourself.Nemesis? Don't flatter yourself.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-50409962308177725082011-11-20T12:22:08.833-05:002011-11-20T12:22:08.833-05:00Are you afraid to answer the question?
Did you kn...Are you afraid to answer the question?<br /><br />Did you know when you read the book that Zinn was a Communist, or are you discovering it now for the first time? Or, are you refusing to verify it for yourself merely because your nemesis mentioned it?Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-86408917492681000582011-11-20T05:05:29.395-05:002011-11-20T05:05:29.395-05:00Miranda:
You're as repulsive as Joe McCarthy,...Miranda:<br /><br />You're as repulsive as Joe McCarthy, but luckily, much stupider and with less power.Jeffrey Shallithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12763971505497961430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-34090768569716799802011-11-20T00:10:27.842-05:002011-11-20T00:10:27.842-05:00Takis, I don't get your question. Neither your...Takis, I don't get your question. Neither your cute cartoon, nor your last sentence, changes the fact that Jeff was influenced by (and assumedly liked) the American history book written by a Communist. I'm curious if he knew, at the time he read it, that Zinn was a Communist. And if he's just learning it for the first time now, if it makes him wonder about possible bias in the book.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-42543709685576158412011-11-18T17:03:22.993-05:002011-11-18T17:03:22.993-05:00Miranda, what kind of reaction is this? You remind...Miranda, what kind of reaction is this? You reminded me of <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Is_this_tomorrow.jpg" rel="nofollow">this!</a><br /><br />By the way, Jeff Shallit said:<br />"These are books that had the most influence on me in various ways."<br />Read the sentence again.Takis Konstantopouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675216467783238403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-71313768993063899632011-11-18T16:42:07.276-05:002011-11-18T16:42:07.276-05:00Truti, my question wasn't just a question, but...Truti, my question wasn't just a question, but an invitation to clarify what you meant. <br />And I guess Jeff doesn't care whether Zinn was a Communist or not, or just hasn't gotten around to investigating.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-55841972643051034992011-11-18T13:34:41.606-05:002011-11-18T13:34:41.606-05:00Miranda,
No.
TrutiMiranda,<br /><br />No.<br /><br />TrutiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-75833322217567892942011-11-18T00:25:31.392-05:002011-11-18T00:25:31.392-05:00Anon, are you saying that his "People's H...Anon, are you saying that his "People's History" addresses and refutes the critics of that book within the book itself? He must be not only provocative and humanistic, but also prophetic.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-35019160982810759592011-11-17T21:06:27.369-05:002011-11-17T21:06:27.369-05:00I recently retired, and am amazed at the stuff I a...I recently retired, and am amazed at the stuff I am bringing home from the office--a few dozen cartons. But those items are mostly journals, textbooks and such. When I was younger, living with my parents, my brother and I had so many books we were stuffing them on the sill plate between floor joists.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07891989201161664914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-92032950641214016362011-11-17T20:18:20.457-05:002011-11-17T20:18:20.457-05:00Great list, Jeff! Thing about Gene Wolfe and Will...Great list, Jeff! Thing about Gene Wolfe and William Trevor (if they're not already in your bookcases and boxes).<br /><br />:)John Farrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18280296574996987228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-24675887953646227502011-11-17T16:19:05.699-05:002011-11-17T16:19:05.699-05:00Howard Zinn - among the great humanists and provoc...Howard Zinn - among the great humanists and provocateurs of our time. His Peoples History... reduces its critics to muttering and then sputtering and then nonsense.<br /><br />TrutiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-74200227211720674202011-11-17T14:12:16.293-05:002011-11-17T14:12:16.293-05:00A nice selection! But Howard Zinn? The Communist?A nice selection! But Howard Zinn? The Communist?Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20067416.post-40202015996571402562011-11-17T13:23:43.583-05:002011-11-17T13:23:43.583-05:00I always enjoy looking over book lists compiled by...I always enjoy looking over book lists compiled by people whose blogs I follow, as I often find a new book or several to read that I had not previously discovered. I was not, however, expecting to see a book from my childhood raise its head. My grandfather had the entire Happy Hollister series (left over from my mother and her brothers ) and I recall them fondly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com